**UPDATED** Bill Clinton Pointing Fingers And Other Lie Detectors

September 25, 2006

Every time Bill Clinton leans forward and points his finger, he lies.

When he leaned forward, looked into the camera and said, “I did not have sexual relations with that woman,” he was lying. As it turns out, Monica, not Bill, was telling the truth.

He leaned forward and vehemently denied having an affair with Gennifer Flowers, too. Later, in a deposition, he admitted to the affair.

Now, Mr Clinton was a very good liar-Bob Kerrey (former Governor of Nebraska) said so himself.

“Clinton’s an unusually good liar. Unusually good. Do you realize that?”

Of course, behavior patterns rarely change. In Mr Clinton’s case, with his long and distinguished career of deceit (political, personal and every other iteration). leaning forward and pointing his finger (deliberate behaviors meant to emphasize sincerity and believability) are the kind of body language that are dead give aways to even the most mediocre and ill informed students of psychology. That’s right- you would be aware of that truth even if you graduated at the bottom of the night school at Addis Ababa Technical Community College.

In the case of Mr Clinton, the best lie detectors are his sincerity and self proclaimed victim status. Here are a few examples. On June 8, 1996, Bill Clinton publicly- and painfully said, said,

I have vivid and painful memories of black churches being burned in my own state when I was a child.

There is no record of a Black church burning in Arkansas when Bill Clinton was a child.

On February 21, 1996, Bill Clinton, with the greatest sincerity said,

“Since I was a little boy, I’ve heard about the Iowa caucuses. That’s why I would really like to do well in them.”

In fact, the Iowa caucuses began in 1972, when Mr Clinton was in Oxford.

The list is long, but there is no point in repeating what everyone already knows.

Bill Clinton was not responsible for 9/11, any more than was George Bush. We noted Mr Clinton’s remarks in We Went To War Because Bill Clinton Told The Truth that

So we will pursue a long-term strategy to contain Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction and work toward the day when Iraq has a government worthy of its people.

First, we must be prepared to use force again if Saddam takes threatening actions, such as trying to reconstitute his weapons of mass destruction or their delivery systems, threatening his neighbors, challenging allied aircraft over Iraq or moving against his own Kurdish citizens…

The hard fact is that so long as Saddam remains in power, he threatens the well-being of his people, the peace of his region, the security of the world.

Here’s the deal. The war on terror isn’t about Bill Clinton or how wonderful he thinks he is. The war on terror isn’t about Fox News, or how much he would like to make Fox News an issue. Mr Clinton did some smart things in fighting terror and he did some stupid things in fighting terror- and nothing he says can change that reality.

He had 8 years to fight terror and he did the best he could, given the circumstances. As he noted in the interview, Mr Bush was in office 8 months. The additional 8 months prior to 9/11 could not have prevented that from happening.

The war on terror is about facing the truth about our adversaries and those who would threaten us. Mr Clinton ought to be making every effort to be telling the truth when it comes to the security of our nation.

Bill Clinton doesn’t have much of a track record when it comes to telling the truth.

**UPDATE**

Oh my.

“The final policy paper on national security that President Clinton submitted to Congress — 45,000 words long — makes no mention of al Qaeda and refers to Osama bin Laden by name just four times. The scarce references to bin Laden and his terror network undercut claims by former White House terrorism analyst Richard A. Clarke that the Clinton administration considered al Qaeda an “urgent” threat, while President Bush’s national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, “ignored” it. The Clinton document, titled “A National Security Strategy for a Global Age,” is dated December 2000 and is the final official assessment of national security policy and strategy by the Clinton team. The document is publicly available, though no U.S. media outlets have examined it in the context of Mr. Clarke’s testimony and new book.”

More reality. The Anchoress puts on a 3 pointer clinic:

One of the quotes I had missed before reading the transcript of Bill Clinton’s spontaneous (or maybe not so spontaneous ) rage-fest this weekend was the former president saying “now, I have never criticized President Bush…”Which is just too funny, because he has done it before both foreign and domestic audiences – in fact it was his criticisms of Bush just about a year ago…

This is very troubling stuff to consider. Very sad, troubling stuff. When a void needs to be filled with love, but it cannot be because love is confusing, or threatening, or simply not in the plans, then the void will be filled with something else.

I wonder if in Clinton’s profound need to be loved, either by “his public” or his “Bush parents” he is not approaching a place that is very self-destructive. Hate and love are separated by a thin line, and the thin line is often made up of equal parts self-loathing and doubt…

There is just so much more… Read it all.

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26 Responses to “**UPDATED** Bill Clinton Pointing Fingers And Other Lie Detectors”

  1. Brenda Says:

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  2. justgrits Says:

    Outstanding post. The man has NO CLUE how transparent and his “wife” really are…AND that the majority of Americans (well-educated or not) see that.


  3. Nice catch on the black churches bit. Interesting that someone who can make that claim legitimately (Condi) is calling him to account.


  4. [...] Siggy has the Bill Clinton lie-detector test.  Outstanding post – read the whole thing! Of course, behavior patterns rarely change. In Mr Clinton’s case, with his long and distinguished career of deceit (political, personal and every other iteration), leaning forward and pointing his finger (deliberate behaviors meant to emphasize sincerity and believability) are the kind of body language that are dead give aways to even the most mediocre and ill informed students of psychology. That’s right- you would be aware of that truth even if you graduated at the bottom of the night school at Addis Ababa Technical Community College. [...]


  5. [...] How ironic that the man who claimed to have felt, as a child, the pain of black churches being burned in his home state (nothing of the kind actually took place, as Siggy points out) is being called to account by a black woman in power… who actually did. [...]


  6. [...] How ironic that the man who claimed to have felt, as a child, the pain of black churches being burned in his home state (nothing of the kind actually took place, as Siggy points out) is being called to account by a black woman in power… who actually did. [...]

  7. Buzz Kill Says:

    All you people wish you had a candidate as qualified as Clinton. His approval ratings are 60% with the US public. Bush is in the 30s. Clinton has a genius IQ and was a Rhodes Scholar. He can talk extemporaneously for hours about myriad subjects. Bush’s IQ? Again, in the 30′s and his handlers minimize the time they let him follow their script because he is such an imbecile that more than 10 mins and he is likely to goof up.

    An international embarassment who should not even be compared with people like Clinton. Whether it is giving the German chancellor an impromptu back rub, chompin on a biscuit like a pig with Tony Blair or any of a number of other incidents we all shudder at…

    it is indeed pathetic that you goons beat on Clinton to make that mental midget look acceptable.

    Very very sad. And obvious.

  8. SC&A Says:

    I’m sorry Buzz, but while lying, deceit and dysfunctional leaders are attributes that you clearly find acceptable, it is also quite clear that those ethics are not so admired by the rest of the country- or the civilized world, for that matter.

  9. Buzz Kill Says:

    Bush brought a whole nation to war on lies.

    Compare that to an extramarital affair, personal business, you blundering fool.

  10. Buzz Kill Says:

    “it is also quite clear that those ethics are not so admired by the rest of the country- or the civilized world, for that matter.”

    This is proof of a lethal combination of idiocy and denial.

    Clinton is the most popular public figure in America right now. Only the complete pathological support Bush. He is YOUR candidate. You support him, he’s your boy.

    Internationally, I need not say anything more.

    I mean, even you can weigh that one. Denial and all.

    You gots to pull your head out and comes up for air sometimes.

    Hugo Chavez called Bush the Devil at the UN and he was applauded. OK? Enough said? Chomsky called Chavez’s POV “mainstream” internationally.

    Sorry Charlie. Get yourself another reality. This one is failing you flat.

  11. Dr. Sanity Says:

    Buzz kill-

    Clinton had all the makings of a great man and president. Instead, he was and is mediocre. Bush perhaps had all the makings of a mediocre man and so-so president; instead, he has turned out to be a man of moral integrity and vision and a great president. Go figure. You can cry all you like about it, but that is how history is going to record it. Too bad for you.

  12. SC&A Says:

    Answering my remarks with more deceit does not obviate my remarks. “I’m sorry Buzz, but while lying, deceit and dysfunctional leaders are attributes that you clearly find acceptable, it is also quite clear that those ethics are not so admired by the rest of the country- or the civilized world, for that matter.

    Please- Bush didn’t lie. There were WMD’S found in Iraq and as you recall, there were WMD program components buried in the ground. Still, that isn’t the issue.

    While I understand your reference and obessions to all matters sexual, in fact, Clinton’s affair was irrelevant.

    He lied under oath in front of grand jusry, he lied about his past and he lied about his adminstration. His administration saw more indictments and criminal charges than any previous administration.

    While these may be admirable qualities for a dysfunctional Arab leader, they are not acceptable in theg free and civilized world.

    Buzz, as I have said many times, I’m sure you are a nice fellow, get help. Your ‘worldview’ and grip on reality is severly handicapped by an unhealthy narcissim.

    Now, if Clinton were indeed the most popular past president (very high schoolish way of determining credibility- says much about your maturity and state of mind), the nation would have voted democrat (insert obsessive conspiracy theory here. Don’t forget to include the Jews- you know, like you have before).

    Sorry Buzz- you just can’t hide who you are- as most readers here and on other blogs where you comment, have made painfully evident.

  13. Buzz Kill Says:

    It is embarassing when people, sorry to say this to a “Dr,” willingly put their heads up their rears and taunt others about their posture.

    Bush has robbed the surplus Clinton left, which was the real security, blames Clinton for terrorism that occured on HIS WATCH and tries to weasle out of every excuse and lie as patriotism.

    You people can suck it up all you like. It is obvious that your right-winger talking points are shriveling like the black hearts of Cheyney and Rumsfeld.

    Even the military generals are coming and calling them incompetants.

    We have been in Iraq for longer than WWII. No game plan, no way to victory, no exit strategy.

    TO call him a “Great man” is to call into question your sanity, Dr. Sanity.

    Extreme ignorance and denail. Painful to see fellow Americans acting so foolishly.

    Where did you all come from. Like a band of Orks that crawled out from behind the wood work or something.

    Anyway, your horrible time is almost done and you can all retreat back into the shadows.

  14. Buzz Kill Says:

    “Please- Bush didn’t lie. There were WMD’S found in Iraq and as you recall, there were WMD program components buried in the ground. Still, that isn’t the issue.”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  15. SC&A Says:

    Poor Buzz.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3872201.stm
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/01/25/wirq25.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/01/25/ixnewstop.html
    http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson200402060837.asp (overview/analysis)
    http://pajamasmedia.com/2006/06/wmd_found_in_iraq.php
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/02/16/woil116.xml
    http://pajamasmedia.com/2006/09/_exclusive_secret_iraq_wmd_rep.php
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html (see the fed gov report)
    Did you think Clinton was making all that stuff up??
    Seems bending over is a bad habit you might want to break.
    Now let’s get back to addressing your ‘cockroach syndrome’- running away when the lights come on.
    ..while lying, deceit and dysfunctional leaders are attributes that you clearly find acceptable, it is also quite clear that those ethics are not so admired by the rest of the country- or the civilized world, for that matter.” WHy do you suppose that is Buzz?

    Why do you suppose so many other commnetors on other blogs regard you in the same way we do? Is the whole world wrong, Buzz? Is no one as smart as you, Buzz?
    Like we said, get help.
    In any event, more later.

  16. Buzz Kill Says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    “The 1,000 “sources” evacuated in the Iraqi operation included a “huge range” of radioactive items used for medical purposes and industrial purposes, a spokesman for the Energy Department’s National Nuclear Security Administration told AP news agency. ”

    Yeah, WMD.

    I am too much in the sun poor, Siggy.

    And you, if you see cockroaches, you must be in front of a mirror.

    You are borderline crackpot and any other adjective that will suit a nut who wont give it up.

    Popularity is not a truth contest and you wouldn’t win anyways.

  17. Buzz Kill Says:

    That quote was from your BBC source. The rest are the same. You heap lies on lies and call me the liar.

    That is the way your goons work. That is what I have observed.

    Serious, sick, hypocrites.

    Cure Dr. Santy and then seek her council.

    Twisted, dark and bizarre. I can’t understand your breed. Your dark lord Karl Rove will be the undoing of many weak minded, easily swayed individuals.

    I mourn for your souls.

  18. SC&A Says:

    Buzz, if you are going to mourn for souls, mourn for those who believe that the dysfunctional and immoral messages of the dysfunctional and immoral leaders.

    I see. Everybody else is lying, except you.

    Do you feel persecuted? Do you feel hounded? Do you feel the whole world is against you- well, reality, anyway?

    Now Buzz, where EXACTLY is the BBC and the other sources incorrect?

    Buzz, I know you can’t answer that- it’s OK.

    I’m sure you are a nice person, under all that dysfunction and pathology. If you won’t help yourself, do it for you family. They surely deserve better a healthy and somewhat well adjusted son.

    The mental health profession exists so that people like you can find meaning and purpose that might replace the sadness, aimlessness and despair.


  19. [...] Sigmund Carl and Alfred has a one two punch regarding the mainstream media and current political going ons up on their blog. The first punch is the SC&A post – Bill Clinton Pointing Fingers and other lie detectors – and deals mainly with the Clinton interview from Sunday. The second punch comes in the SC&A – When you will be finished Michaelango? – post where SC &A looks at the current situation of the Clinton fall out and Muslim’s continued anger toward the pope and the nation of Israel. Give them both a read and a think. [...]

  20. George Says:

    Just curious, but where on earth did you get the idea that the Iowa caucuses began in 1972?

  21. SC&A Says:

    My mistake.

    The caucus only came to national attention in 1976, not 1972. That was the reference intended.

    The caucus ‘came to national attention only in 1976, when obscure Georgia governor Jimmy Carter won the most votes at the Democratic caucus. In a major upset, he went on to win his party’s nomination and eventually the presidency.


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  23. [...] we all remember Bill Clinton’s Lie Detector, right? That waggin’ finger. Every time Bill Clinton leans forward and points his finger, he [...]

  24. Thomas Says:

    “Bush perhaps had all the makings of a mediocre man and so-so president; instead, he has turned out to be a man of moral integrity and vision and a great president.”

    A man of moral integrity?
    What moral?
    He`s a liar and a worlord!


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