What A Wonderful Civil War

June 13, 2007

There is a civil war going on in the Palestinian Authority (more drivel here).

A civil war amongst the Palestinians is a good thing. Now gather round the fire children, shut up and listen.

Unless and until we know who represents and speaks for the Palestinians, negotiations are pointless. Hamas are religious fundamentalists. Fatah are more secular. They are at odds with each other at the most basic level. They cannot be reconciled, any more than Catholics could reconcile reconcile with Madeline Murray O’Hare. They have two very different ideologies and they have two very different visions of what a Palestinian state would look like. The Hamas sees a Middle East that is judenrein and make no apologies for that. The Palestinian Authority wants to see a more secular and progressive state with a strong economy. They too make no secret of their hatred for Jews, but they are more pragmatic. What both sides have in common is an addiction to corruption (a disease that infects virtually every Arab state). The difference is that the PA understand that there is more corruption to be had with a strong economy. Hamas ideology seeks an Islamic state, even a poor Islamic state, as long as there is Jewish blood on their hands.

We cannot even assume a cogent negotiation strategy until we know who speaks for the Palestinians. To assume we can negotiate with Hamas and Fatah at the same time is to not understand in the least Middle East realities.

We noted earlier, assertions that we in the west are in error for not recognizing and dealing with the democratically elected Hamas regime are absurd.

…Adolph Hitler too, was democratically elected. Had free European nations boycotted or even eliminated the Nazi leadership, 50 million lives would have been spared. We are under no obligation to recognize or support any regime, even if democratically elected, that promises ‘rivers of blood.’

We have also noted that the Nazis attempted to hide their evil intentions. Hamas cannot be bothered- and for good reason. The Nazi ideology was not fully known or understood by the Germans until after Hitler was in power. Hamas has never made a secret of it’s ideologies and beliefs that have espoused hate, racism, bigotry and violence. The Palestinians that voted for Hamas knew exactly what and who they were voting for. They made very clear who and what they are, as do the Arab nations that support Hamas.

National political parties and social service agencies that want to be considered moral equals to with those in the western world cannot preach and teach hate- and be surprised when violence becomes a way of life. Hamas and Jihad for example, make no effort to hide their bigoted and racist agenda. In fact, Hamas, Jihad, et al, are no different than the Ku Klux Klan and other neo-Nazi organizations (many of which maintain relationships with Hamas).

Imagine a the Ku Klux Klan insisting it were the equivalent of other political party and organizations. Imagine a network of Ku Klux Klan schools. What do you suppose that curriculum would be like? Now, imagine that the children that attended those schools went home every day and were then exposed to Klan TV. Imagine those ideologies reinforced by the clergy, each week.

Imagine Klan summer camps that taught children guerrilla warfare and how to kill the neighbors they hated.

Imagine Klan schools, camps and other institutions bordered on a black, Jewish, Catholic or other immigrant neighborhoods.

Do you still see Hamas in the same way?

If Hamas wins the civil war, their ideologies and beliefs will no longer be camouflaged. we will know how to deal with these same ideologues that supported Saddam Hussein. If the PA wins the civil war, they will have to make some serious choices, or the cycle of internal violence will repeat itself. The only thing that is certain is that neither the western democracies or Israel will allow for another 40 years of Arafat type obfuscation, double talk and hypocrisy from the Palestinians.

If those who have the need to defend those for whom their entire raison d’etre is hate, let them embrace the Ku Klux Klan- they are no different than Hamas and Hizbollah, In fact, they have been far less violent. It is a match made in heaven.

To be clear- this civil war was both inevitable and necessary. If anything, the western boycott of the Hamas government probably impeded the start of the civil war. Had Hamas and the PA had access to huge sums of money, they would have armed themselves to the teeth and moved to eliminate the competition a whole lot faster.

Let them fight it out. We will deal with one party and not two- and that winning party will be held accountable. Once and for all, there will be clarity- for the Palestinians and ourselves.

12 Responses to “What A Wonderful Civil War”

  1. Denny Bin Laden Says:

    Finally a real Civil War. Too bad for the ‘Let’s negotiate all the time crowd’ it’s not in Iraq, rather in Gaza and coming soon to the West Bank. I was amused to see tonight’s ‘whip’ coverage of Lebanon/Gaza/Iraq, where the three ‘seasoned’ international coorespondents all concluded that while these three conflicts are separate – they are connected and made worse because the United States has not engaged our ‘enemies’ in negotiations. Not one had a ill word to say about the role of Syria, Iran or Hamas.

  2. expat Says:

    Excellent piece, Siggy. I am so sick of the US being blamed for not giving people what they want when those people are not adult enough or responsible enough to define what they want. If the Palestinians choose bloodshed over self analysis and discussion, so be it.

  3. SC&A Says:

    Thank you, expat.

  4. Fausta Says:

    Excellent post, and also today’s is excellent.

    The only thing that is certain is that neither the western democracies or Israel will allow for another 40 years of Arafat type obfuscation, double talk and hypocrisy from the Palestinians.
    I respectfully disagree with you: The UN will.

  5. Fausta Says:

    (This link should have bee included in the above comment) http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,2101677,00.html


  6. [...] the players and arena (a more serious discussion of the Palestinian civil war can be found here and [...]

  7. Saul Walls Says:

    As much as people joke that the Western media and Arab supremacists/Islamist would find a way to blame Israel for this, they seem to have out run the jokes. Right from the start I have heard the incomprehensible yet not unexpected statements rising through the putrid swamp of modern progressive intellectual thought: If Israel had not unilaterally withdrawn as they were asked to do by the Palestinians or had withdrawn but not while protecting themselves with a defense fence then Palestinians would have a common enemy to fight. I have even heard Israel criticized for not crushing the Palestinians terror gangs and using their imperial might to occupy the land and bring peace. To Hell with the West. I am going to start learning Korean.

  8. Saul Walls Says:

    “The only thing that is certain is that neither the western democracies or Israel will allow for another 40 years of Arafat type obfuscation, double talk and hypocrisy from the Palestinians.
    I respectfully disagree with you: The UN will.”

    One more reason, if one was needed, for Israel and the Western and Eastern democracies to leave the UN. There are no words to describe the depravity of the UN and the fact that some decent people are fooled into working for it and with it is one of its greatest calamities. While the idea of a club of democracies would not likely be workable at the present time due to varying standards of democracy and human rights, some kind of UN objectors club with some minimum standards of entry could be cobbled together to negotiate with what remained of the UN for international law and policy. Anything would be better than allowing the UN to retain its fake legitimacy while it continues to deliberately make the world a worse place while pretending to be some kind of moral and compassionate entity.


  9. Smug, self-assuring propaganda par excellence. I’m glad I read this piece because it shows up the kind of meanspiritedness that indicates people like you are not after peace.

    Of course, the US-Israeli neocon arming, aiding and abetting of one side (Fatah) to counter the democratically elected government of Hamas — all well documented in the mainstream press — had nothing to do with it, nothing at all. Yet, incredibly, despite fomenting all this and all the while subjecting to the Palestinians to unbelievable hardships, Hamas have taken control. Shame a puppet government could not have made headed by quisling Abbas.

    Its amazing how smart Israeli observers can see this clear divide and rule operation and you apparently can not.

    Ask not for whom the bell tolls, because blowback will come to you.

  10. Ken Says:

    doubleplusgoodthink, comrade peoplesgeography!
    doubleplusgood doubleplusduckspeak!

  11. steve Says:

    Give the Pals better weapons and better military training, and then seal the borders.

  12. SC&A Says:

    Steve, that is idea of the week.


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