Drop in Birth Rates, Rise of Single Voters Set Rightbloggers to Raving

December 5, 2012

Digging your heels in is the right thing to do when you are right. Digging your heels in when it is the wrong thing to do is turning your back on reality.

How can you tell the difference? For one thing, if the majority of people don’t see the world through your eyes chances are you’re on the wrong track. When shunning science to the point where people’s lives are put at risk becomes the entry ticket to a particular tribe, something is very wrong. When a blind eye is turned to behavior that is discriminatory or hateful, that too, is very wrong.

We all yearn to belong and to be a part of something greater than ourselves. In one way or another, we strive to claim our space with like minded individuals. There is nothing wrong with that and in fact, it is a good thing. Our families, our groups, our community to be there for us in times of need and despair and to be there to share our joys and triumphs.

To be a part of a group is to be a part of something bigger than ourselves and to give back to the group with little or no expectations of receiving anything in return. To be a part of a healthy group is not about imposing your will on others.

What is happening now to our nation is profoundly tragic. Our community, on a charge led by many on the right,  is being torn apart and ‘E Pluribus Unum’ has been reduced to a forgotten slogan. 

Some on  the right have lost their way. While that may be cause for celebration for some political adversaries, it is a sad time. The right- just like the left- have contributed mightily to the character of this country. Hospitals, charities built by conservative or religious Americans can be found all over the land and volunteerism by conservative or religious Americans have left a permanent and honorable mark on the tapestry of the nation. From schools to social services to endowed scholarships to neighborly helping hands good people- you neighbors- have helped make our nation a better place.

Rather than reclaiming a great history, some on the right are embracing all the ideas that are wrong for this nation. Their biggest mistake is not trusting the American people, that great body which has shown the ‘wisdom of the crowd’ has served us well.

When things go south, Americans have never been shy about showing their displeasure at the polls. That won’t change.

America, like the great document that is the Constitution,  is living and breathing, growing and expanding- and when necessary, is self correcting.

Village Voice:

The day-to-day business of rightblogging – harrying Susan Rice, cheering on congressional Republicans, and so forth — is not very satisfying to us, nor (apparently, from their tedious writing on those subjects) to them.

So we were happy for them and for ourselves when some recent reports showed that U.S. birth rates have fallen to historic lows. This excited the brethren, as it touched on some of their favorite themes, such as contempt for the childless and the fear that unless America churns its childbirth up to Yours, Mine, and Ours levels, the nation cannot long survive.

We should note that rightbloggers have long been concerned with the U.S. birth rate, for a number of reasons. For one thing, they worry that if America doesn’t outbreed its enemies, democracy is in peril. “The Islamic world is reproducing at a rate far above replacement level,” as Robert Maynard wrote at Renew America in 2010, while “America is about in the middle with a birth rate barely above replacement level.” The reason: “While we in the west are mired in nihilism, multicultural relativism and self-doubt, radical Muslims have a fanatical devotion to spreading their cause.” Many lunatics and at least one GOP County Committee member have picked up the theme, though its premise is specious at best.

That goes for rightbloggers’ domestic enemies as well: In the years before the Obama boom, rightbloggers took to reassuring themselves that, since red state procreation rates were higher than blue state rates, a Republican electoral majority was all but assured for the foreseeable future.

That’s how Joel Kotkin explained Bush’s victory in 2004: “Last month, Democrats swept the largely childless cities–true blue locales like San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Boston, and Manhattan have the lowest percentages of children in the nation–but generally had poor showings in those places where families are settling down,” he wrote. “… the problem for Democrats isn’t that they are losing among families now. The real problem is that the electoral importance of both nuclear families and the communities where they are congregating is only growing.”

He added that this also spelled trouble for Democrats among “the Latino population–which tends to be more family-oriented than any other group in society… if Latino voters continue to move into the middle class, buy houses, and relocate to more conservative areas… Democrats may have a hard time holding on to them.”

This cheered RedState: “Republicans are winning the baby battle!” Glenn Reynolds of Instapundit quoted a reader, “So, ‘dumb rednecks breeding in their double-wides’ turns out to be ‘America’s demographic secret weapon’?” “Liberal ‘Fertility Gap’ Should Worry Democrats,” announced NewsMax.

“White birthrates and Republican voting are closely correlated,” determined nativist Steve Sailer at The American Conservative. “…Lower density helps explain why red regions both attract the baby-oriented and encourage larger families among those already there.” As is his wont, Sailer also told readers that white liberals in Manhattan don’t like black people, who are all criminals. “Nobody noticed that the famous blue-red gap was a white baby gap,” Sailer added, “because the subject of white fertility is considered disreputable.” (Not for long, though: He was quoted enthusiastically by David Brooks.)

While “Red State fertility is not a hard fast rule,” said RedState in 2006, “nonetheless, we also note that Pennsylvania and Wisconsin were squeakers in 2004 election, indicating a significant Red presence in the population…” “The more America’s secular/progressive blue states emulate shrinking socialist countries of Europe in their politics and mores,” wrote Tom McLaughlin in 2007, “the more their birth rates go down. By contrast, religious/conservative red states have much higher birth rates.” Thus, “traditional religion and culture alive by producing children and staying together to raise them. That’s the whole point of marriage – staving off extinction.”

This thinking progressed to the point where libertarian Bryan Caplan declared that “the most realistic long-run path to liberty is boosting libertarians’ Total Fertility Rate to 3.” As recently as March, Glenn Reynolds quoted a rightwing reader who said of child-poor blue-state liberals, “They do realize that knuckle-dragging troglodytes like Santorum, Romney, (and me — with 3) will outbreed them thus winning in the long run right?” Etc.

Just before the 2012 election, the U.S. National Center for Health Statistics issued a report that showed historically low fertility rates. Rightbloggers seemed unsure what to do with this news. On the one hand, like everything else they didn’t like, it was something they could blame on Obama; on the other, they at least dimly grasped that if the rate was down nationally, it might also be down in the red states where they were expecting a tsunami of right wing baby voters…

Read it all.

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12 Responses to “Drop in Birth Rates, Rise of Single Voters Set Rightbloggers to Raving”

  1. Booger Says:

    I am always disgusted by the opinions of those who read what is on the other side of the ideological divide. Instead of looking for a viable theme, they cite the most ridiculous opinions they can find. While it serves up smug amusement for the base, it does nothing to endear their point of view with the other side or to find any common ground.

    Thus I do not ascribe much validity to the piece. But more to the point:

    The drop in fertility is probably a direct result of the economy. Children are no longer regarded as an asset. Marriage as a life goal has been sidelined and turned in to a source of income for divorce lawyers. For those brave enough to raise children despite the odds, there are no shortage of political hacks on both sides seeking to make policies all over those kids and their parents.

    Thus, we sit here and wonder why people see so little future in their lives that few want to spend their life fortunes raising children. Of those who are born, many are seen as “accidents.”

    Yes, for many reasons, the birth rate is at record lows. We have liberalized so many things that even our very future is considered to be optional. The liberal left needs to realize that just as disaster lurks if the Right gets everything they ask for, so it is if the left gets theirs.

    There needs to be an honest competition of ideas, not this stuck-up nonsense from those who purport to study the other side.

    • SC&A Says:

      I could not agree with your last sentiment.

      My resentment stems from the idea that those right of center must walk in lockstep or pass a certain litmus test.

      • Booger Says:

        Those litmus tests are rife on both sides, they just don’t go by the same names. For example, if you are for LGBT rights, you are expected to back a centralized effort to deal with the effects of global warming.

        The honest competition of ideas that I speak of is the search for common areas of agreement instead of that which divides us. If someone seeks centralized governance of some issue, I’ll probably disagree in most cases, except those where no other method really works. For example, health care insurance policies could be run state by state; while food and drug manufacture, distribution and labeling is regulated at the federal level.


  2. The drop in fertility is probably a direct result of the economy.

    Or maybe the storks are on strike or something. Probably.
    (Wild guesses are fun things to do on the internet.)

    ..there are no shortage of political hacks on both sides seeking…

    Magical.

    The liberal left needs to realize that just as disaster lurks if the Right …

    Balance.

    …not this stuck-up nonsense from those who purport to study the other side.

    Fairy.

    • Booger Says:

      Governance theories, Left or Right, never work well across the board. The notion I raised is an issue fitness and applicability of ideas, not balance.

  3. Russ Says:

    How can you tell the difference? For one thing, if the majority of people don’t see the world through your eyes chances are you’re on the wrong track.

    Um, no. The popularity of an idea demonstrates absolutely nothing about an idea other than its popularity.

    When shunning science to the point where people’s lives are put at risk becomes the entry ticket to a particular tribe, something is very wrong.

    When disagreement with political correctness is called “shunning science” there is definitely something wrong.

    When a blind eye is turned to behavior that is discriminatory or hateful, that too, is very wrong.

    And yet when the press abdicates its responsibility to hold the Obama administration responsible for the kinds of actions that any Republican would rightly be challenged on, the PC kids thinks that’s only right.

    • SC&A Says:

      Sorry, but the anti vaccination crowd shun science.

      Denying evolution shuns science.

      As for the media, that is an issue which needs another discussion.

      And fro the record, I am right of center in political leanings., I choose to believe in God (and I believe that is none of your business) do not believe there is a religious litmus test for conservative beliefs and ideals.

      In fact, you can be religious, atheist, agnostic, gay or of any color, race or religion and be conservative.

      Deal with it.


    • Um, no. The popularity of an idea demonstrates absolutely nothing about an idea other than its popularity.

      Correct.
      It’s called an argument ad populum.

      When disagreement with political correctness is called “shunning science”…

      You have that backwards.
      You can’t shun science and then slyly label it “disagreeing with political correctness” to make yourself feel better.
      Science is the study of reality.
      You are entitled to you own opinions but not your own facts.

      Evolution is real.
      Vaccines are not causing autism.
      Vaginas do not have magical powers to kill rape sperm.
      NASA and every single scientific community on the planet is not lying to you about their conclusions on climate change.
      The Earth is billions of years old rather than thousands of years.
      You can’t pray the gay away.
      HIV does cause AIDS.
      Nicotine is addictive.
      Smoking does cause cancer.

      Deal with it.

      • Booger Says:

        Your language shows dogmatic adherence to points of view that are incompatible with the real goals of science.

        For example: Vaccines have not been shown to cause autism. It is very unlikely that they do, but you can not completely discount the idea.

        The Vagina notion were the rantings of an ignorance and stupid congressman, never mind science or medicine.

        The notion of the climate changing is quite accurate. It was changing long before humanity arrived on the scene and it will continue to change. However, before even taking their next breath, many continue with…”and that’s why we should form a centralized governance that will deal with this situation by building markets for carbon dioxide indulgences, and by rationing resources to our way of thinking.” And then these two issues are conflated.

        “You can’t pray Gay away.”: While my personal experience with family and friends would confirm this notion, it is not science. Show me a gay gene, prion, virus, bacterium, or whatever that makes one homosexual. Show me a feature in human physiology that conclusively makes one Gay. To be able to make a statement like that you have to have some sort of physiological evidence.

        The notion that HIV does not cause AIDS is silly because AIDS is defined in those terms. Furthermore, I’ve heard as many on the left say this as on the right.

        So how about some leftist bogus science?

        Clean fusion energy: Uh, no. The neutrons created by fusion are going to go somewhere and will make the surrounding environment radioactive. There will still be a significant radioactive mess to clean up.

        Clean Solar Energy: Ever look at the ingredients of a solar cell or the energy required to make one?

        Balance of Nature: Then what caused all those prehistoric extinctions?

        Low level non-ionizing Electromagnetic radiation is dangerous.

        You see, the left point of view is just as anti-science as the Right.

        It’s that dogmatic political lens one uses to view the problem.

        Deal with it.


  4. Your language shows dogmatic adherence…

    Spare me.
    The issue is not my language, one way or the other.
    I don’t care about your opinions.
    Which is why I don’t offer my own.
    This is not me versus you.
    It’s only you versus science.
    I’m just the messenger.
    I’m not asking you to just take my word on anything. It’s all easily verifiable.

    Vaccines have not been shown to cause autism. It is very unlikely that they do, but you can not completely discount the idea.

    You have that backwards.
    It’s very unlikely that vaccines cause autism. Vaccines have not been shown to cause autism despite being rigorously tested again and again and again. So the medical establishement discounts and dismisses the idea.
    The claim is rejected through lack evidence.
    It’s bogus. Any medical scientific community will tell you the same.

    The Vagina notion were the rantings of an ignorance and stupid congressman, never mind science…

    Science is the study of reality.
    Vaginas do not have magical powers to kill rape sperm.
    That’s just the way it is. That which can be asserted without evidence can be rejected without evidence.

    The notion of the climate changing is quite accurate. It was changing long before humanity arrived on th….

    Dumb. Did your mother drop you on your head as a small child?

    “The notion of people getting cancer is quite accurate. People were getting cancer long before cigarette companies arrived on the….”
    (spot the problem)

    I don’t get my science information from some anonymous guy on the internet. Neither should you.
    I’m not offering my personal opinion on any science topic at all.
    I’m just the messenger.
    NASA and every single scientific community on the planet is not lying to you about their conclusions on climate change.
    Go ahead and see the NASA website for yourself.
    It’s all there in plain English.
    When you talk about climate change, make sure everything you say about it can be backed up by the nice people at NASA.
    I certainly do.

    “You can’t pray Gay away.”: While my personal experience with family and friends would confirm this notion….

    I don’t care. Keep your homespun stories about your notions to yourself. I don’t offer you mine and there’s no point in you offering me yours.

    …it is not science.

    Science is the study of reality.
    The claim that you can pray the gay away is false. It doesn’t work. It’s plain old magical thinking.
    That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Burden of proof and all that.
    The people who take money and run businesses based on the idea that you can “pray the gay away” are frauds.

    The notion that HIV does not cause AIDS is silly because AIDS is defined in those terms.

    Which does not slow down the HIV denialists in the slightest.
    HIV causes AIDS.
    This is not my opinion.
    The medical community will tell you the same.
    I’m just the messenger.

    Furthermore, I’ve heard as many on the left say this as on the right….

    I don’t care. Science denialism is science denialism. It hurts us all as a society. The thinking that props up the kook HIV denier is the same thinking that props up the kook climate denier which is the same thinking that props up the kook evolution denier.
    In science, only the work counts. It’s peer-reviewed scientific literature (all of it) and the research it represents.
    Nothing else matters.
    (Certainly not my “language” nor my “dogmas” or lack thereof.)

    So how about some leftist bogus science?

    How about you stop invoking the magical balance fairy and go to the NASA website instead?
    Let me help you with that- Link
    They didn’t lie to you about the moon-landings and they are not lying to you now about climate chance.
    There’s no spooky-wooky global scientific conspiracy.

    • Booger Says:

      First, you read things in to my posts that aren’t there.

      Second, you engage in pointless labeling and name calling.

      Third, if you took the time to read what I wrote, you might actually find a lot of common ground there.

      But until you actually think about what you’re writing, I won’t bother answering your foolishness. Have a nice life.


      • First, you read things in to my posts that aren’t there.

        That’s rich coming from someone who tried to pin me as a dogmatist

        Second, you engage in pointless labeling and name calling.

        See above.
        (shrug)

        Third, if you took the time to read what I wrote…

        I did read your post. I even quoted parts of it.

        …you might actually find a lot of common ground there.

        You don’t get to cherry-pick the bits of science you like and then parrot science denier talking points on the rest. It’s a package deal.
        Just because an Evolution denier accepts the safety of vaccines doesn’t make them any less of a kook.

        But until you actually think about what you’re writing…

        I have. So has NASA and every single scientific community on the planet. I even gave you the link to NASA so you could see for yourself. What more does it take to get through to someone like you?
        Grow up.


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